John Kamensky, visiting lecturer in public policy, recently appeared as a guest on the Statecraft podcast with host Santi Ruiz. The episode, titled "How to build the 90s DOGE," Kamensky and Ruiz delve into the history of DOGE's predecessor, the Reinventing Government project, officially known as the National Partnership for Reinventing Government (NPR), as well as some of the similarities and differences between the two initiatives.
Listen to the episode at Statecraft or wherever you find your podcasts.